You voted this bunch of radical leftist in and here you go Waynesville! Your Town of Waynesville radical leftist City Council is planning to hire a Sustainability Officer, with a salary of $85.000, to police the town employees and town citizens, and get rid of all the gas powered equipment of any kind used by the town employees. They also plan to hit all of the real estate owned by the town to go completly carbon neutral by 2050, These people have totally lost their minds over the fake climate change crisis! The employees of the town are miserable with this bunch of leftist. What crazy ideas will they come up with next?
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Fake Climate Crisis Waynesville Town Councl's New $85,000 environmental police for Waynesville citizens and employees!
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This is idiocy, in many ways.
Most of the projected savings will be from dubious accounting, much like when salesmen come to you about rooftop solar. They cherry pick what expenses they disclose and give optimistic production estimates to get it to look good.
For example keep this in mind when the town starts giving out the numbers on solar projects. When they calculate payback over 25-30 years will they include maintenance cost from failed components? The average solar inverter, the most expensive part, lasts about 10 years before failure so they will need to replace it twice on average over the life of that project. But you never see that expense budgeted. If the roof it is going on isn’t brand new then it likely will need to be replaced before the life of the solar system is up and the cost it removing and reinstalling the panels will greatly increase it- you don’t see that in the budgets saying these things will pay for themselves. Also they never add in the higher insurance costs after panels go in.
For EV’s, are they accounting for the cost (true cost) of installing chargers all over at town facilities for them? And true cost means the upgraded building wiring and service needed to allow them, not just the cost of the charger. When you project a savings from not using fuel but you have to spend $50,000 on upgrading the power at that office to allow a charger to be installed and then $10,000 on a charger then in reality you will be in the negative long after that EV is worn out.
When honest, accurate accounting is used rarely do these projects pay for themselves. But you never see that because “sustainability officers” are first and foremost in the business of justifying their existence and the types of politicians who hire them lack either, or both, the capacity or desire to actually look at the numbers. They just want to be told what they are doing is good and virtue signal how green they are, actual cost be dammed.
Electric vehicles for non-critical purposes like code enforcement are fine. But for police cars? Idiotic. Because there will be times when there are emergencies when the police have to work extended hours, especially when there is something like a bad storm or flooding.
With a gasoline car, or even alternative fuel like LP or CNG this is possible because they can refuel quickly.
But the EV patrol car once it’s depleted doesn’t charge fast, so that car and the officer are out of service for hours waiting for it to charge. And to make things worse the times where we may need the police out on extended shifts are often when the power grid may be down, making charging even more difficult.
Plus the department uses the fact that officers can take cars home as both an incentive and to ensure in an emergency they can be rapidly called on duty. Are they going to pay to install chargers at the home of all these officers? Or are the offices going to lose their take-home cars and the citizens have to pay more to make up for that incentive and also deal with slower response times when a call up for SWAT or other officers happens?
This is idiocy, in many ways.
Most of the projected savings will be from dubious accounting, much like when salesmen come to you about rooftop solar. They cherry pick what expenses they disclose and give optimistic production estimates to get it to look good.
For example keep this in mind when the town starts giving out the numbers on solar projects. When they calculate payback over 25-30 years will they include maintenance cost from failed components? The average solar inverter, the most expensive part, lasts about 10 years before failure so they will need to replace it twice on average over the life of that project. But you never see that expense budgeted. If the roof it is going on isn’t brand new then it likely will need to be replaced before the life of the solar system is up and the cost it removing and reinstalling the panels will greatly increase it- you don’t see that in the budgets saying these things will pay for themselves. Also they never add in the higher insurance costs after panels go in.
For EV’s, are they accounting for the cost (true cost) of installing chargers all over at town facilities for them? And true cost means the upgraded building wiring and service needed to allow them, not just the cost of the charger. When you project a savings from not using fuel but you have to spend $50,000 on upgrading the power at that office to allow a charger to be installed and then $10,000 on a charger then in reality you will be in the negative long after that EV is worn out.
When honest, accurate accounting is used rarely do these projects pay for themselves. But you never see that because “sustainability officers” are first and foremost in the business of justifying their existence and the types of politicians who hire them lack either, or both, the capacity or desire to actually look at the numbers. They just want to be told what they are doing is good and virtue signal how green they are, actual cost be dammed.
Electric vehicles for non-critical purposes like code enforcement are fine. But for police cars? Idiotic. Because there will be times when there are emergencies when the police have to work extended hours, especially when there is something like a bad storm or flooding.
With a gasoline car, or even alternative fuel like LP or CNG this is possible because they can refuel quickly.
But the EV patrol car once it’s depleted doesn’t charge fast, so that car and the officer are out of service for hours waiting for it to charge. And to make things worse the times where we may need the police out on extended shifts are often when the power grid may be down, making charging even more difficult.
Plus the department uses the fact that officers can take cars home as both an incentive and to ensure in an emergency they can be rapidly called on duty. Are they going to pay to install chargers at the home of all these officers? Or are the offices going to lose their take-home cars and the citizens have to pay more to make up for that incentive and also deal with slower response times when a call up for SWAT or other officers happens?